tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18974473.post4767682608435398533..comments2024-03-22T14:19:36.812-04:00Comments on Bear Me Out - the mind of a bear: Telling ShameBeartoasthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07629488754337171368noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18974473.post-79899580258000681172007-05-02T21:11:00.000-04:002007-05-02T21:11:00.000-04:00Shame can come from so many directions. I felt sha...Shame can come from so many directions. I felt shame at one point because I thought if I truly loved my wife, she would satisfy me, and those troublesome desires would go away.<BR/>It helped me to realize that I had no control over the content of my desires, but full control over the expression of those desires.<BR/>For some reason that helped me to honor both myself and my desires.A Bear in the Woodshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11013721650938158869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18974473.post-43523865009720240592007-03-25T10:33:00.000-04:002007-03-25T10:33:00.000-04:00They say shame is what lets us know we've done wro...They say shame is what lets us know we've done wrong, but you know, what you've 'done' wasn't a deliberate, planned act, it happened for a multitude of reasons that are the real shame. The reasons of society that still make us feel the need to hide, be ashamed of what we were born, which back us into these corners.<BR/><BR/>I know all about that feeling of wanting to just disappear. sometimes it seems to be the only way things can be dealt with. As for the shame, there comes a time to say, 'yes, I acknowledge it, some of it is mine, some is circumstance, but it's done now, time to go on'. You'll have left a whole lot of positives in your family too, and you will in the future. If you were a shit, you wouldn't even care. You do, so you are a decent man in circumstances too many find themselves in through the way things are.<BR/><BR/>I've never had to tell children, so can't help you, but I'd say don't do it with shame, do it with honesty and love.<BR/> <BR/>LouisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18974473.post-14754900880898238182007-03-22T08:47:00.000-04:002007-03-22T08:47:00.000-04:00I don't know what you are going through, but I can...I don't know what you are going through, but I can understand the shame. The world still tells us that being gay is bad and whether we hear it directly or absorb it for society. But society is WRONG! And until we get positive gay role models, the stereotype will continue.<BR/><BR/>I have found that by paying attention to what I felt, I was able to navigate the "Coming-Out" maze. There were just times that it felt right to tell someone and times when it did not. Try to find "natural" times to reveal and try to avoid a manufactured event. This is part of your life and who you are. What I found it the more matter-of-fact I was, the easier the process went.BentonQuesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09007300481037924684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18974473.post-74955523833523850562007-03-20T19:56:00.000-04:002007-03-20T19:56:00.000-04:00Toasted One:Yes, you have to wade through the sham...Toasted One:<BR/><BR/>Yes, you have to wade through the shame. The worst for me was not the shame for myself, but the shame it seemed to VISIBLY bring on my wife.<BR/><BR/>Well, that is something you just have to get through. And you know who will be there with you. All of us will be with you in spirit, but HE will be at your side, in your heart, in your suffering.<BR/><BR/>Hold onto the fact, when you wish "things could have been otherwise," that "otherwise" would mean several lives on which your heart hangs not coming into the world. You cannot wish for "otherwise." "Thiswise" is a blessing, for all the pain that visits you now.<BR/><BR/>I know that sounds trite, but I think if you hold it in your heart you will see that it is also true.<BR/><BR/>I think of all of you, often.<BR/>Persevere, Joe, persevere.<BR/><BR/>T@CA Troll At Seahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09247836451322342385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18974473.post-24134068493273180682007-03-19T23:49:00.000-04:002007-03-19T23:49:00.000-04:00There's no getting around it, times are tough now....There's no getting around it, times are tough now. I agree with all of your commenters that you tell your children the truth, answer what questions they may have, and assure them that this in no way changes your love for them. Children want to know the truth and, if not now, then eventually will be glad that you believe they're mature enough to handle it.<BR/><BR/>I've probably said it before - coming out to my daughter has enriched our relationship immeasurably. What we thought was intimacy has been superseded by the real thing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18974473.post-26942166799166256862007-03-19T22:46:00.000-04:002007-03-19T22:46:00.000-04:00shame is an innate human instinct, so it is not po...shame is an innate human instinct, so it is not possible to be rid of shame. What is possible to to exorcise the shame for which we are snoockered. In other words, things that are not shameful. such as who you are. <BR/>When I told my parents I was gay I was scared. of what? that they would reject me/not love me. it evoked shame in me -an old ingrained internalized homophobia. but I rose to the occasion and said matter of factly that this is a part of who I am. To hide is further is shame in itself. <BR/>It all went OK of course. <BR/>I hope that when you tell your kids matter of factly the simple facts, they will be accepting. I suspect they won't be surprised. Be prepared for 'well we kind of knew".Ur-spohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04237644452200889946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18974473.post-8561998036438140452007-03-19T20:59:00.000-04:002007-03-19T20:59:00.000-04:00I do not know about "doing all that punctuation", ...I do not know about "doing all that punctuation", but I would love to be near just to hold you with a reassuring bear hug until the shame evaporated in the still night air and you breathed again as a man who had no place for shame, only for life and for love. Remember always that you have been and are ultimately loved, and you can live, love, and move into the future without shame because of that love. His unconditional love for you puts everything else in perspective and frees you for life.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com